I have 3 outdoor cages made by "Cages By Joe". These cages are very well made. The smaller is roughly 4 feet long with a hutch on one side. The cage is almost brand new. Paid $165 asking $135. The other two are 5 and 7 feet long . Both in good condition. No broken wire or other parts. Five foot has a slide out pan so can be used as an indoor cage. Pan has wear on one end but still very usable. Pan can be replaced if need be. I have kept these cages very clean. All three hutches for sleeping in excellent condition. I am firm on the smallest. I want $125 for each of the larger cage. Paid well over $200 for each of them. Much better quality than most out there.