With total silence from both the ‘firm’ and Team Harry and Meghan, the allegation that King Charles and Kate, Princess of Wales, both expressed 'concerns’ about the colour of a future royal baby linger poisonously in the air. What to make of it?

After that Phil and Andrew meet Dan Davies to discuss one of the greatest scandals in British public life since the Second World War - a scandal that revealed a series of horrific sex crimes carried out by a much loved ‘national treasure’ and a history of cover ups and failed investigations what shook many institutions including police forces and the BBC, where Saville was a huge star for decades.

Dan’s book ‘In Plain Sight’ is the definitive account of the Savile affair and was a major source for for the recent BBC dramatisation of Savile’s life, in which Dan is portrayed as one of the predator’s main interrogators over many years.

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